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#1 User is offline   bluethink 

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Posted 23 June 2009 - 01:34 AM

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Most Java web reporting tools, especially those have some BI characteristics, often claim to end users that their products are simple to use. Some reporting tools promise that they can allow end users to make various statistical reports follow their own inclinations, and evenmake a report just by drag and drop.

Has web report development become so easily?!

The fact is that programmers are still struggling against various reports. Both web reporting softwares and OLAP products seldom allow end users to use them directly, therefore, end users are still using Excel.

For end users, making a simple Web report (with row grouping or simple cross) with these common reporting softwares is ok, as they can do with the wizard and the semantic layer. However, end users can not make most complex reports by dragging and dropping the relations of data structure which they do not understood. Therefore, it is impossible for end users to make all the report with these common reporting softwares.

Drag and drop can only set the positions of data items, but they even can not do this very well. As current reporting toolsÂ’ editing styles are commonly based on controls, and it is a general editing proposal of graphical primitive, it absolutely does not show the regularity of table. However, real successful table products like Excel are not based on controls. For summary conditions, grouping rules and operation formulas, which have to be dealt with in complex reports, drag and drop can do nothing at all. Therefore, end users have to understand the operation model of report first, and then, write abstract expressions. This is not much easier than coding.

Solution

Then, is it impossible for end users to make Web reports by themselves?

Yes, it is possible of course!

However, they can only make those simple reports with universal web reporting tools. In order to make complex industry reports, they must use reporting tools with industry characteristics. In other words, programmers must add industry experience into some technical reporting tools, and set the styles and templates of report. Then, end users only need to input parameters and indicators to make various complex reports. The degree of difficulty is determined by the functions and integration of the reporting tool.

To sum up, it is not easy to make complex web reports by drag and drop as others said.
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Posted 30 June 2009 - 11:36 AM

Hi bluethink,

I can't tell if you have a question about web based report designers or just making statements.

If you are looking for a more complex drag-drop web based report designer, then have a look at the BIRT Report Studio. I talked about it recently in my blog at If Only Reports Could Build Themselves… » Blog - BIRT Exchange.

As for the data relationships, you are correct that the typical report consumer or business user does not understand, or even care about the relationships of the underlying table data. This is why the BIRT Report Studio can get its data from a metadata layer called Information Objects which allows you to predefine the relationships and then some built-in logic which trims the queries to only pull what the user has selected.

Use the same link above to build your own report on our demo server and then let me know if you have any questions.
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